August meets for Orlando Roadsters [Archive] (2024)

Tony Orlando

28th July 2003, 22:37

Heh heh.... First post. :D

-Tony

Dream2Race

28th July 2003, 23:00

RoadsterGuy99

28th July 2003, 23:11

yea! you got til Friday!! :rolleyes: :D :ohno:

Tony - do you still want to go to R-Speed with us?? There's still room in the room(s)...

[ 28. July 2003, 23:25: Message edited by: 976 ]

Racer46

29th July 2003, 16:46

Neo Masamune

29th July 2003, 18:19

Punks. :p

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

30th July 2003, 09:17

LOL!

To stay on topic: the first meet in Aug, will be at the Bennigan's off 50 :D

10AE 2344

1st August 2003, 01:36

I spotted my first rx-8 today at a dealer. I made my parents stop so I could look at it. :D The dealer was closed, so no test drive. It was a black 6 speed with the touring package (HID, DSC, a couple other things) and came to $31k and change with a $1k dealer markup. They also had a blue one on the showroom floor which I liked better than the black. My offical judgement... its ugly. Too angular and high-techy. I hope they do a better job with the NC and FE. I much prefer the smooth sexy lines of the NB and FD. Hopefully they will update the FD's styling for the FE and not start from scratch. To it's credit, I think that with the wedge front end, the RX-8 would look better with zero fender gap. :cool:

There was a shinsen miata setting next to the black rx-8. Honestly, if I had cash in hand, I would have taken the miata! ('cept it was an automatic) BTW, the shinsen was $28k! That's just stupid. You think mazda would have learned from the deadly '90s japanese sports car price creep. I think they almost have to make the NC cheaper just to keep from stepping on the RX-8's toes.

Well, I think that's all of my whining about Mazda for now. Maybe they'll hire me and I'll straighten everything out for them! :p

Dream2Race

1st August 2003, 09:30

So thaaaat's what the Shinsen is. :rolleyes: :D

It won't be long before you start seeing an RX-8 at the MSCC autocrosses. ;)

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 10:07

Hey guys, let's pretend for a minute I was offered a great buy on an awesome car, and wanted to sell my Miata. You think there'd be any takers around here? Just curious.....

-Tony

Neo Masamune

1st August 2003, 10:26

I'd buy your car if I could sell mine and get financing, but with my little credit fall-out after loosing my job a couple years back, I doubt I can get financing. :)

-Neo

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 10:54

Hm.... I have the opportunity to buy a killer car real cheap. The only thing is, I'd only get 13 in trade for mine. (clean book) With everything I've added to the car, I'd like to see 16K, which even though it wouldn't cover what I've put into the car, I think would be a fair price for a 200 HP 10AE with low miles.

I really don't have any desire to sell my car, but it's one of those situations where you have to consider it. Oh, what to do?.....

PAW467

1st August 2003, 11:38

PAW467

1st August 2003, 11:55

Okay.. I'm posting this for Next Monday's Meet August 11th

Place: The Wunder Bar @ West Oaks Mall

They have good Beer.. No wings but great food. And there's lot's of parking lol :D

Neo Masamune

1st August 2003, 11:57

I can't eat there....nothing but carbs carbs and more carbs. Sorry.

Nice that it's right next to the house, though.

-Neo

Neo Masamune

1st August 2003, 11:58

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
Hm.... I have the opportunity to buy a killer car real cheap. The only thing is, I'd only get 13 in trade for mine. (clean book) With everything I've added to the car, I'd like to see 16K, which even though it wouldn't cover what I've put into the car, I think would be a fair price for a 200 HP 10AE with low miles.

I really don't have any desire to sell my car, but it's one of those situations where you have to consider it. Oh, what to do?..... What's the killer car?

-Neo

PAW467

1st August 2003, 13:08

RoadsterGuy99

1st August 2003, 15:20

Originally posted by PAW467:
Okay.. I'm posting this for Next Monday's Meet August 11th

Place: The Wunder Bar @ West Oaks Mall

They have good Beer.. No wings but great food. And there's lot's of parking lol :D what happened to Bennigan's?? :confused: :confused:

PAW467

1st August 2003, 16:04

Benigins is this coming Monday, August 4th.

But.. I don't care it was a sugestion.. Neo doesn't sound so keen on it any hoo..

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 16:29

New intake in! I'm leaving work now, so I'll be back in two hours with driving impressions.

While the car was in the air, we also found the buzzing noise from the rear: A cracked weld on my RB muffler. :confused: That suprised me, coming from RB, but a quick spot weld fixed it. That should be good for about 10HP. :D ;)

Tony

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 18:48

Wow. I can't believe I'm actually going to jinx myself by saying this, but I think my idle dip is gone.

Not one time on the way home, where I usually have 20 or 30 dips between O-Town and Leesburg. I guess the third time's the charm for the guys at VF and their intake designs, because it's smooth as silk now. Yayyyyyy......

BTW, while I had them on the phone today, I worked out a package deal with the guys at RB. Clutch, PP, Lightweight FW, both bearings and a tranny seal. Anyone interested can shoot me an email. Cheeeeep.

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 19:32

RoadsterGuy99

1st August 2003, 19:51

RetroMiata

1st August 2003, 22:01

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 23:43

RetroMiata

1st August 2003, 23:51

Tony Orlando

1st August 2003, 23:58

Dream2Race

2nd August 2003, 00:29

The 1st & 2nd gen RX-7s are serious fun to drive! Those ricers gave them a bad image in the late 90s. :rolleyes:

I still really love the 3rd gen twin turbos. Mmmmm... :p

Dream2Race

2nd August 2003, 00:31

Originally posted in the now-retired July thread: (need to make sure Gerald sees)

"Gerald, want a co-driver for the Aug. 9 MSCC autox? (There goes another favor I'm asking! I'm really in debt to you guys!). I'm trying to score a co-drive either in Palmblad's SC Miata or a Z06 but haven't gotten any commitments yet. What'cha think dude? It will be a blast! :D "

Neo Masamune

2nd August 2003, 08:34

RX-8's are looking less and less attractive in my opinion, especially with this whole "Mazda lied about the HP" issue happening AGAIN. If you havn't heard, many people who've made the purchase had the car dynoed. On average, they're putting down 180hp to the wheels. That's 20+HP less than factory claimed power, and 30+ hp less than it SHOULD be placing considering the flywheel's rated to 247HP (factory). Mazda engineer head's are claiming the car won't make full power till it's completely broken in. I, and MANY people here, think that a full 20HP gain off of break-in is just not going to happen.

They pull this shieot again with the NC Miata, I'm getting off the Mazda boat. All their recent performance models aren't living up to expectations, and it's getting rediculous.

I want a convertable anyhow, so the next car's going to 90% be an S2000.

-Neo

EDIT: Only way there's going to be a 20+ HP gain is if the ECU's programmed to change the fuel curve at some point. Out of the box, they're running RICH.

Tony Orlando

2nd August 2003, 16:56

RoadsterGuy99

2nd August 2003, 17:13

RetroMiata

2nd August 2003, 19:46

Badassian

2nd August 2003, 21:01

Originally posted by Neo Masamune:
RX-8's are looking less and less attractive in my opinion, especially with this whole "Mazda lied about the HP" issue happening AGAIN. If you havn't heard, many people who've made the purchase had the car dynoed. On average, they're putting down 180hp to the wheels. That's 20+HP less than factory claimed power, and 30+ hp less than it SHOULD be placing considering the flywheel's rated to 247HP (factory). Mazda engineer head's are claiming the car won't make full power till it's completely broken in. I, and MANY people here, think that a full 20HP gain off of break-in is just not going to happen.

They pull this shieot again with the NC Miata, I'm getting off the Mazda boat. All their recent performance models aren't living up to expectations, and it's getting rediculous.

I want a convertable anyhow, so the next car's going to 90% be an S2000.

-Neo

EDIT: Only way there's going to be a 20+ HP gain is if the ECU's programmed to change the fuel curve at some point. Out of the box, they're running RICH. I'll have to try to find it again, but yes, supposedly the RX8 runs differently after a predetermind amount of miles. I forget exactly what gets changed, but I believe the rev limiter is one of them. I'll have to find the info again to be sure though.

AutoXRacer

3rd August 2003, 08:30

:sad: Well, :( I will not be able to make it once again on Monday, :mad: since i am working all day/night. :sad:

There might be a new person showing up at the meet. He wrote a message in my guest book on the cardomain site asking where/when we meet. I gave him the info, keep a look out. I think he drives a 96...

Matt, I don't know if I'll make it on Saturday. I might have to drive down to Miami. It has not been confirmed yet... Sorry. :(
But I got my fingers crossed that I don't... :D

Tony, I thought you already had a LW flywheel from RB...? Are you just upgrading your clutch (just replace the steel insert) or something? Don't bother with RB clutch, get ACT!! Its the best and most reliable clutch for the Miata (especially high hp ones)...

Dream2Race

3rd August 2003, 11:14

AutoXRacer

3rd August 2003, 12:52

:confused: QUESTION :confused:

In the SCCA Valenica autocrosses, is it just one day competition event? Or is it a two day practice/competition event?

Thanks ;)

RoadsterGuy99

3rd August 2003, 13:08

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
:confused: QUESTION :confused:

In the SCCA Valenica autocrosses, is it just one day competition event? Or is it a two day practice/competition event?

Thanks ;) Just stop by here (http://www.cfrsolo2.com) for details. ;)

Tony Orlando

3rd August 2003, 17:18

Nope, I'm running a factory clutch/PP/flywheel. I had an ACT on my old Miata, and I have a bad taste in my mouth about them since the PP cracked. Three days with no car because your one day old PP broke will do that to you. :rolleyes:

I'm sitting around doing nothing since I'm on vacation, so I'll be posting some new pictures of my intake on my Cardomain site later.

Dream2Race

3rd August 2003, 20:20

Phase II

4th August 2003, 08:56

Hazimwood

4th August 2003, 09:06

AutoXRacer

4th August 2003, 09:18

Neo Masamune

4th August 2003, 12:08

I have some "bad" news brought on by some major important choices I've had to make in the last few days in my planning over the next couple months. It requires me to limit my spending habits for anything extra to fund a trip to Atlanta for a very important convention called AWA of which I should have an artist's booth at, last weekend of September.

Unfortunately, this trip is going to cost me upwards of $500+ for hotel stay, supplies, materials, admissions, space and survival. In addition to that, I will need to get some new shoes for the car to survive said trip.

What this means is financially, there's no way I will be able to make it to the R-Speed Open House. If I remember right, Patrick will be going later than the rest of the group, so I'm hoping Andrea will be able to tag with him for the trip.

Sorry, guys, I wish I could do it but this is much much more important to me as it'll have a huge impact on my career as an artist.

-Neo

AutoXRacer

4th August 2003, 14:55

:eek: Neo, keep your woman under control!!! :eek:

Check it out... (http://www.miataforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00024151)

j/k ;) :D

RetroMiata

4th August 2003, 15:34

Hazimwood

4th August 2003, 15:37

Originally posted by 976:
Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
:confused: QUESTION :confused:

In the SCCA Valenica autocrosses, is it just one day competition event? Or is it a two day practice/competition event?

Thanks ;) Just stop by here (http://www.cfrsolo2.com) for details. ;)

AutoXRacer

4th August 2003, 15:39

Hazimwood, the Valencia SCCA event is in Sept. and Nov.

Its a $30 fee...

PAW467

4th August 2003, 16:00

Ya know what Arron.. I'll chip-in for you to go to R-Speed. You shouldn't miss out on the fun man :D

I did get Friday off so I would be leaving with the Friday group. :sad:

AutoXRacer

4th August 2003, 16:07

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
:eek: Neo, keep your woman under control!!! :eek:

Check it out... (http://www.miataforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00024151)

j/k ;) :D Nevermind :sad: ...

They (moderators) erased all the postings...
At about 2:45pm the forum got attacked by multiple postings titled "Horny Girl Want You".
It showed up in all the sub-forums. Everyone started posting and joking about it.
One guy said where are the Moderators? Are they out autocrossing?
I thought that was pretty funny... :D

Neo Masamune

4th August 2003, 16:39

Originally posted by PAW467:
Ya know what Arron.. I'll chip-in for you to go to R-Speed. You shouldn't miss out on the fun man :D
Thanks for the offer, but that'll end up being really expensive though....I mean I figure the trip overall will run about $150-$200 that weekend. After budgeting for the next couple months considering the con and whatnot, I can barely afford half that. :(

-Neo

Dream2Race

4th August 2003, 17:18

Hazim,

There's an MSCC autox in Tavares this Saturday. MSCC (http://www.martinsportscarclub.com)

Dream2Race

4th August 2003, 17:19

10AE 2344

4th August 2003, 19:30

That stinks Aaron. Sorry to hear it. I can see how the convention would be much more important though. ;) In the meantime, everybody's bailing on the trip! :( I'm going by myself if I have do, darn it! :p I can't believe no one else wants to/can go. It's not like we're going to Montana or anything! :p FYI, on the way home I'll be cutting out just south of Atlanta to visit my friend for a few days. He may be interested in coming to the open house too. :D

Aaron, I do have a half worn tire to donate to the cause, if it'll save ya a few bucks. :) Ya might wanna get cheap used tires anyway if money's tight and you're gonna put a buncha highway miles on them. No sense wearing out new sticky ones. ;)

Tony Orlando

4th August 2003, 19:30

I'll address this at Bennigan's tonight, but for those who won't be there: I'm heading out to the dragstrip soon. Apparently (thanks, Gerald :D ) they only charge 10 bucks on Wednesdays at Speed World, so this Wed I might make a little trip to see how I hold up against the mullet crowd out in Bithlo.
All I'm getting these days are emails about 0-60 and 1/4 mi. times on my car, and I'm a little curious myself.

Anyone else out there who'd like to accompany me? Gerald, I've already read your PM, so I know you're in. Anyone?

RoadsterGuy99

4th August 2003, 19:55

We will be a no show tonight... somethings came up, unfortunately... :sad:

Dan, I am still planning to go to R-Speed...

Tony, they have always charged $10 to run on Wed. and Friday nights at SpeedWorld in Bithlo... just make sure to get there early (before the even open) to get the max runs possible... if not, you may pay $10 for just 1 or 2 runs... :( in the past I would be one of the first 15 cars in, by the end of the night I'd run at least 6-7 times, and that's with the domestics breaking down! :p

Tony Orlando

4th August 2003, 23:15

Why is it that I can't seem to pull out of Bennigan's without something getting in my way?? First cones, now a Kia! Some people have no business behind the wheel of a car...

Dan, Gerald, you guys missed the best show ever tonight:

Crazy Drunk Psycho Man!!!
What a riot.

It started amusingly enough as a drunk hobo on a bike pulled up and was staring silently at our cars. Then, out of nowhere, he becomes belligerent and starts shouting, "All you m-f-ers, I'll take you all on, I've got yachts...blahblah....quarter of a million dollars....blahablah..." We tried to ignore him, but then he started walking among our cars, staring at us, shouting the F word and telling us all how rich he is, and he'll take us all on. Several of us told him to "have a good night" and "take it easy", but it was looking like he was going to jump on us or our cars, so we ended up calling the cops to have him removed.
What great fun.

Once again though, we were outnumbered by S2Ks. We need a little Miata presence here, guys. Pretty soon we'll be deciding where to meet over on the S2K board....

oyveychris

4th August 2003, 23:20

PAW467

5th August 2003, 09:51

Aye! Wait a dang min..who said some of us were not going. Last I checked, I got Friday off from the warden...errr umm my Bosss. :D

So, Yes. I'm going to R-Speed.

I think.... I've convenced Aaron to go too! :D

RoadsterGuy99

5th August 2003, 12:01

PAW467

5th August 2003, 12:44

Like I said above. I now have everything set. Unless I get screwed.

I'd say those of us that are going. We need to up some place to talk about what were doing. I know you guys want to go to busters. I'm planning on meeting up with a friend to have a few drinks.

RoadsterGuy99

5th August 2003, 13:45

Originally posted by PAW467:
Like I said above. I now have everything set. Unless I get screwed.

I'd say those of us that are going. We need to up some place to talk about what were doing. I know you guys want to go to busters. I'm planning on meeting up with a friend to have a few drinks. Bring 'em to DnB!! they got pool tables, full bars, virtual golf!, restuarant (mmmm :) ) laser tag, and of course arcade games!!!! :D

PAW467

5th August 2003, 16:12

Tony, I saw the beta unpainted! I want this body kit now!!

http://www.kgworks.co.jp/4-c-nb01.htm

Neo Masamune

5th August 2003, 18:37

That kit makes me want to HURL. That's the 996 turbo lookalike kit that I've been waiting to see all this time? Remove that fog light insert (and the fog lights....) all that ugly grillwork (or replace it with black) and then it just MIGHT look decent.

Those sides are terrible. I think I'll stick to the Invader kit that can be found HERE (http://www.buethemotorsport.de/english_start.htm) It's FD goodness :)

-Neo

Neo Masamune

5th August 2003, 18:43

Here's the pic of the Inavader: http://www.buethemotorsport.de/shop/images/NB02-100.jpg

-Neo

Bob

5th August 2003, 20:35

Originally posted by Neo Masamune:
That kit makes me want to HURL. That's the 996 turbo lookalike kit that I've been waiting to see all this time?

-Neo ++ Senator, I know 996's and that is NOT a 996 (even lookalike.) :)

Neo Masamune

5th August 2003, 21:41

Exactly, and that's why I'm hoping that is in fact not the one I've been told about....

-Neo

PAW467

5th August 2003, 22:33

oyveychris

6th August 2003, 00:26

Bob

6th August 2003, 18:37

RoadsterGuy99

6th August 2003, 20:16

Dream2Race

6th August 2003, 22:38

PAW467

6th August 2003, 23:01

Oh well.. people have their opinion's :D I just like the nose section.. the rest I could care less for.

Any hoo..

Mark, when are we all going to beable to discuss this trip??

10AE 2344

6th August 2003, 23:32

RoadsterGuy99

6th August 2003, 23:40

Originally posted by PAW467:
Oh well.. people have their opinion's :D I just like the nose section.. the rest I could care less for.

Any hoo..

Mark, when are we all going to beable to discuss this trip?? This coming monday's meet. btw... where's it gonna be?? :confused:

PAW467

7th August 2003, 08:46

I have suggested the following:

The Wunder Bar
@ West Oak's Mall

The owner is willing to stay late just for us. And no strange drunks :D Also plenty of parking!

Neo Masamune

7th August 2003, 08:50

Random discovery this morning going to work:

My Miata accellerates(sp?) from 80-100 MPH faster in 5th gear than it does in 4th. This is the oddity that is the 7 degree timing advance, I suppose...more torque at 4k rpms than at 5500. :)

Dunno where we're going to have the meet at....any suggestions?

-Neo

EDIT: Let's do the Wunderbar. I'm not on Atkin's anymore, anyhow.

Neo Masamune

7th August 2003, 08:53

Originally posted by Bob:
I'm with you, Chris! Always did prefer Rubbermaid over more TupperWare.... :) Hah hah.

-Neo

Dream2Race

7th August 2003, 11:38

Dream2Race

7th August 2003, 11:39

oyveychris

7th August 2003, 12:52

Dream2Race

7th August 2003, 21:36

Badassian

7th August 2003, 22:14

PAW467

7th August 2003, 23:19

Just a reminder monday nights meet is at

The Wunder Bar @ West Oaks Mall.
(408/hwy 50) to Clark Rd/West Oaks Mall

Parking is on the south east side by Dillards. Lots of parking and no drunks!

AutoXRacer

8th August 2003, 10:18

Hey Matt...

Is the Martin event still happening on Saturday? Considering all the rain we've had? And the possibility of rain in the middle of the race, I'd hate to pay for just two runs...

Just wondering...

Thanks

Dream2Race

8th August 2003, 11:05

Dream2Race

8th August 2003, 11:07

Wait.....so that means you'll be there?! Does that mean I might have a co-drive?! ;) ;)

The only car I've been able to line up for Saturday is a 2003 SS Camaro (or is it 2002?). It will be fun, but it's no Z06! Still have a few more Z06 owners to propostion! :D

Neo Masamune

8th August 2003, 12:31

So now the LEFT Fog light is out on my car. I HATE THESE STINKING FOGLIGHTS. Anybody (Dan?) up to helping me pull the bumper off (Dan?) so I can just remove these stinking foglamps? I'm going to route two of those aircraft grade tubing (like Tony's got) to the filter in hopes of providing cool air....or something similar at least. We can make a project out of it. (Dan? :p )

-Neo

AutoXRacer

8th August 2003, 15:48

I still don't know if I'm going...

Miami...? Or autocross...?

Miami = sunny and beautiful.
Autocross = rainy and out $25 (2 runs if we're lucky).

RoadsterGuy99

8th August 2003, 16:34

hey gerald!

how's that internship looking?? still possible for you going to R-Speed?? :confused:

Racer46

8th August 2003, 17:11

Patrick: I've got your magnetic numbers. I'm going to try to be in Tavares tomorrow. I realy don't like to play in the rain. :(

Gerald: Join MSCC then it's only $12. They will pro-rate your membership fee, at least they did for me last month.

Pete

PAW467

8th August 2003, 17:16

Pete,

Cool! If you can let me know how much.. or I'll bring my ck book if you haven't posted the ammount by tomorrow am.

Pat

AutoXRacer

8th August 2003, 17:18

She is still telling me to hold on.
I asked her if I should cancel my classes and she said not to right now.
To wait until at least for another week.

So I'm out for the trip... :sad: ...sorry...

Unless Pete can get me in...I'll be graduating in December...
Pete... ;) ;)

RoadsterGuy99

8th August 2003, 19:01

:mad: GRR!! :mad: SOO TIRED OF WORKING!! my co-worker's wife just had a baby, so he's been out a week, leaving by myself... (Aaron, you seen how crazy it gets, imagine that x10!) Basically, I've worked from July 29 till today, and I'm working tomorrow also... and I've only had 1 day off... My next day is the 10th (THANK GOD!!!) GRRR!! :mad:

sorry for venting...

Racer46

8th August 2003, 19:46

Dream2Race

9th August 2003, 00:12

PAW467

9th August 2003, 01:02

Neo Masamune

9th August 2003, 16:46

Okay here's the directons on how to get to this Monday's meeting place:

Wunderbar at West Oaks Mall in Ocoee.

Most of you all will be coming from the north or east side of town, so you're going to want to make your way to Hwy 408 (East/West Expwy) and head WESTBOUND towards Ocoee. When you come to the Good Holmes exit, you're getting close. The NEXT EXIT is for hwy 50(and CLARK RD), and is the final exit before you get on the turnpike heading north. This is going to put you on Clark Rd.....just cross 50 on Clark Rd. and you're there. Go to the southeast side of the mall where Dillards is, we'll park in a clearing there.

See you all there.

-Neo

Tony Orlando

9th August 2003, 19:57

I've wrangled off work on Saturday, (next, not today) so I'm going to R-speed. :D Whether or not I drive up with you guys depends on when you're leaving. I work until 6 on Friday, and therefore wouldn't realy be roadworthy until 7PM. If you guys are leaving after that, we can caravan. If not, I'll go home and get a good nights sleep, then leave in the morning.

So, what the "dilly-yo"? ;)

-Tony

RoadsterGuy99

10th August 2003, 15:17

Sweet... Tony's going! Well, Patrick, Dan and myself are leaving Friday morning... with Aaron and Andrea leaving in the evening... Plans to be discussed tomorrow night!

On another note... I need to get my oil change, anyone care to lend a hand/place? I'm free Tues and Wed. after 6:30pm and free all day Thurs... I'll hate having to go pay a dealer for an oil change... :(

Tony Orlando

10th August 2003, 19:58

Wow. So far, I'm the only one who's posted today? :confused:

Dan, I have a question for you. I just installed a mini K+N on my crankcase vent, (like you've got) and now I've got a loud "whoosh!" when I shift at high RPMs. Did you get that too, or is it the boost in the engine escaping?

10AE 2344

10th August 2003, 20:44

Sweet Tony! The more the merrier! As for the noise, I haven't noticed anything like that. The only new air noise I have is the hiss from the main filter. Maybe you have a super secret hidden blow off valve! :D

Mark, Aaron, and anyone else... I'm always up for gettin dirty, and I'm free to work on stuff all this week, but I still live in an apartment. No garage :sad:

RoadsterGuy99

10th August 2003, 23:10

hey, i was the first to post today :p it has gotten rather slow... anyhoo, Tony - sounds like boost leaking, remember it's a positive crank ventilation that re-circulates itself... hey, don't you have some type of blow-off valve with the VF kit?? :confused:

Dan - are you allowed to do maintainence work in your complex?? The only things I really need are mini-ramps (wood boards will do), a jack, and a pair o'jackstands...

Tony Orlando

10th August 2003, 23:30

I've got a post going in the power mods forum, because I can't get a straight answer about that Cranckcase ventilation hose. Does it suck air out of the intake into the cam cover, or does it blow air out of the cam cover and back into the intake? (I'm talking about the one on the driver's side, not the PCV valve.) Maybe one of you guys can help me on this one?

I have a recirculation valve that bypasses the SC at idle. It takes the air from the filter directly to the cross tube instead of running it through the compressor. It's pulled open at 12 or 15 psi of vaccuum. Once you press the throttle, and vaccuum goes below 12psi, then the valve closes and the air is routed through the SC.

PAW467

10th August 2003, 23:46

That vent Tony, is to prewarm air going into the intake. Most of those are connected before the air filter in the stock air box. Its really only effective in cold weather.

The sound your most likely hearing is the air coming out.

Sorry.. I've been busy this weekend. Autocross Sat day.. Then had a 'early' b-day party with some of my friends. Can someone say "please pass the advil". My head still hurts :D

10AE 2344

11th August 2003, 02:19

no, I'm not really supposed to do work in my complex, but they didn't complain when we dismantled Matt's suspension. :p I don't have ramps, jacks, or anything of the sort.

the crankcase vent is attached after the air filter. Pat, does the monsterflow use this still? I never noticed. Anyway, If it really does vent pressure into the intake, I wonder why the intake tube dosen't get gunky from crankcase oil. :confused:

I had some interesting conversations tonight. One girl asked me "is that your car?!?" "wow" "that's nice!" "what's your payments?"

Another (with a guy, after previous conversation) went like this: "aren't you the guy with the BMW?" "no, it's a mazda... miata" "oh, but it's really nice tho, right? not one of those old crappy ones?" "uh, yeah, it's kinda new." "sweet man"

I shoulda told the girl it was a porsche. :p Maybe I wouldn't be at home on the internet right now. :sad: BTW, it just ain't right to bring hot 16 yr olds to keg parties and not tell people they're 16. :ohno:

I'll be joining Pat in the Advil club in the morning. night kids :D

[ 11. August 2003, 02:31: Message edited by: 10AE 2344 ]

AutoXRacer

11th August 2003, 08:33

PAW467

11th August 2003, 09:31

Bob

11th August 2003, 12:18

I don't think it sucks or blows, Tony. It's just there to allow any pressure build up in cam area to go somewhere. Putting it back into the intake is an environmental thing -- it works just as well with a filter arrangement on the CAM cover but it doesn't pass design environmental concerns.

I'm not familiar with the "prewarming" that is mentioned above. It's always been my understanding that the colder the air, the better unless it's a diesel.

Bob

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
I've got a post going in the power mods forum, because I can't get a straight answer about that Cranckcase ventilation hose. Does it suck air out of the intake into the cam cover, or does it blow air out of the cam cover and back into the intake? (I'm talking about the one on the driver's side, not the PCV valve.) Maybe one of you guys can help me on this one?

I have a recirculation valve that bypasses the SC at idle. It takes the air from the filter directly to the cross tube instead of running it through the compressor. It's pulled open at 12 or 15 psi of vaccuum. Once you press the throttle, and vaccuum goes below 12psi, then the valve closes and the air is routed through the SC.

[ 11. August 2003, 12:25: Message edited by: Bob ]

Dream2Race

11th August 2003, 13:21

RoadsterGuy99

11th August 2003, 22:57

PAW467

12th August 2003, 08:47

RoadsterGuy99

12th August 2003, 11:12

** WARNING **

w32.blaster.worm is on the loose!! :mad:

Becareful of any crazy emails and downloads... grab the Fix file and VirusDefinitions from www.symantec.com (http://www.symantec.com) ASAP!!

Dream2Race

12th August 2003, 14:00

Thanks for the info & link Mark. Not that I open unknown email attachments. All I ever download is.....well, nevermind.

Hahaha! :D

Neo Masamune

12th August 2003, 18:19

Saw my first RX8 on the road on the way home from work. It was black...very pretty. Very quiet. I think I'm used to my car's noise though.

It's actually a tad bigger looking than I thought it'd be, in person. And it's not quite as wide as I pictured it either.

But it looked so silky clean in black. mmmmmmm......black :)

-Neo

10AE 2344

12th August 2003, 21:44

Tony Orlando

12th August 2003, 22:23

Ordered some pearl white racing stripes today, installation commences of Thursday. :) I couldn't decide on side graphics, so I went with a design I know I'll love (my old Miata had 'em)

First white w/blue stripes, now blue w/white stripes.

RoadsterGuy99

13th August 2003, 07:44

PAW467

13th August 2003, 07:49

Neo Masamune

13th August 2003, 08:41

Originally posted by 10AE 2344:
FYI, there is a red automatic RX8 on display in the fashion square mall. It's got steering wheel shift buttons. :cool: Ewwww, that means it's the weak automatic one. Not interested. :p

-Neo

Neo Masamune

13th August 2003, 08:48

I need to bring this up....a valid argument why our group shouldn't leave friday night. I'm REALLY tired usually when I get out of work, which would be at 5:15pm. After that I'll drive up and pick up Andrea at around 6:00pm, then meet Tony around 6:45-7:00pm, we'll eat, then finally leave central florida around 8:00pm. The trip to Atlanta is 6:00+ hours. I don't want to be on the road till 2:00AM, I won't make it. No way.

Hence why we should leave on Saturday early AM, say around 6:00am in the morning. I mean, what are we going to gain by being there at 2:00am? We're going right to sleep, and won't wake till 11:00am-12:00am anyways.

Valid argument, no?

-Neo

oyveychris

13th August 2003, 10:57

RoadsterGuy99

13th August 2003, 13:19

Neo Masamune

13th August 2003, 14:27

Hello, valid time argument on the end of the last page. Read! Hello!!! :)

-Neo

Tony Orlando

13th August 2003, 19:17

Got the kit today. All of my measurements and assumptions about the fit of the stripes were correct, except..... The location of the washer jets. Totally forgot about those. Looks like we'll be fabbing up some sort of "plug" for the empty holes, probably using the vinyl that needs to be cut out for the jets on the NB. Arrghh....

I'm down for leaving Saturday morning. Sounds like a good idea to me.

RoadsterGuy99

13th August 2003, 22:52

RoadsterGuy99

13th August 2003, 22:57

10AE 2344

14th August 2003, 00:18

PAW467

14th August 2003, 08:34

Lets just get both rooms Mark.. I'll pay for the other...

I'll see you & dan at the parking lot of Boarders @ 7:30am. Dan if you need directions again just e-mail me your cell #.

Neo Masamune

14th August 2003, 08:51

Yayyyy! I won't die tomorrow night from sleeping at the wheel :) Right, I'll be picking Andrea up at 6AM Saturday Morning then, Tony, e-mail me where we should meet up....we should try a place near the Turnpike, as that's the road we'll be taking to 75. Mark, I need you to email me a map and directions to the hotel, unless you're having Andrea be our Nav.

Spotted another RX-8 this morning....car's starting to catch on. This one was Silver, but the wheels were smaller than the black I saw a couple days ago, so I'm guessing it's the automatic. Boooo hisssss.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

14th August 2003, 09:22

log on to the yahoo site... directions are in the files area ;)

It seems complicated, but really easy... basically turnpike -> I-75 -> I-475 bypass around Macon -> back onto I-75 -> (to Bypass downtown, head toward I-285 West toward Chattanooga, merging back to I-75) -> exit at GA-120/Marietta/Southern Tech/Roswell, head west on GA-120 then turn right onto Franklin, should see Hampton-Inn (455 Franklin Rd SE, Marietta, GA 30067)

Best thing, Delk Rd. is like 5 mins away... DAVE N BUSTERS!! :D

[ 14. August 2003, 09:36: Message edited by: 976 ]

RoadsterGuy99

14th August 2003, 09:46

Originally posted by PAW467:
Lets just get both rooms Mark.. I'll pay for the other...

I'll see you & dan at the parking lot of Boarders @ 7:30am. Dan if you need directions again just e-mail me your cell #. Dan, I'm leaving from Andrea's in the morning... be jumping onto 408 at Goldenrod... if you want to meet up around there...

Neo Masamune

14th August 2003, 12:20

My car is fishtailing wildly in this rain....I guess the rear tread isn't as good as it looks after all. 1 week and I can get some tires.

It better not rain on the way to or from Atlanta.

BTW, when are we LEAVING Atlanta? It's imparitive I get back home Sunday before midnight....

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

14th August 2003, 12:35

a must see upcoming movie!! Underworld (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/) :D

The new Punisher (http://www.apple.com/trailers/artisan/the_punisher/teaser/) looks promising...

As a Jackie fan... anyone up for seeing The Medallion (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/the_medallion/) when it comes out??

RoadsterGuy99

14th August 2003, 15:21

oh btw...

happy birthday patrick!!

PAW467

14th August 2003, 15:34

Woooo Underworld.. something about "gothic-type" chicks turn me on :D (dated a few in high school)

Thanks Mark :sad: Another year down the tubes hehehe

RoadsterGuy99

14th August 2003, 15:46

PAW467

14th August 2003, 16:06

Tony Orlando

14th August 2003, 20:53

10AE 2344

14th August 2003, 21:05

Tony Orlando

14th August 2003, 21:11

BTW, the stripe kit for the NA does NOT fit on our cars. :sad: I had my stripe guy make a nice set out of metallic silver 3M vinyl, and they look awesome. Can't wait to get everyone's opinion once we get to GA.

-Tony
(The new and improved "stripey" kind)

Tony Orlando

14th August 2003, 21:43

Clicky clicky for pics.

it's dark outside (http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=301539&page=5)

RoadsterGuy99

14th August 2003, 21:55

10AE 2344

14th August 2003, 22:48

Neo Masamune

15th August 2003, 08:50

They look Good Tony, that's exactly how I want mine to look, just black...think your guy can hook me up with a deal for them in 3M metallic black?

Call me on my home phone tonight around 7:30-8:00 or email me, let me know where you want to meet up for the trip tomorrow morning.

-Neo

Tony Orlando

15th August 2003, 18:56

Thanks guys. I put up some new pics here (http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=301539&page=5).

Also, be sure to check out page 6. I posted pictures of what came out of my fuel filter when I changed it today. From now on, I'll be changing this a little more frequently. If 55K does this, then I'd say every 15K is not overkill. Yechhh.....

Neo Masamune

15th August 2003, 19:29

Ahem....trunk swap? :D

-Neo

Tony Orlando

15th August 2003, 19:37

I don't get it.

:confused:

And yes, Bob's a long time friend. He striped my old Miata as well as designed graphics for my Dad's RX-2. I'm sure he'd fix you right up with whatever you wanted.

PilotKD

15th August 2003, 19:48

Hey 10AE 2344,

I like the pic of the duals on your page. Looks vaguely familiar. :D

Tony,

I'd like to get a ride in a VF car. I'll be at R-Speed Sunday also. I'm in GA, about 3.5 hours south of Atlanta, right off I-75. I'm not going to leave until Sunday morning though, around 6am. See you there.

Kris (10AE #3031)

Tony Orlando

15th August 2003, 19:53

Look forward to it. I'd like to hear those FM turbo duals in person, I hear they're wicked loud, but in a good way.

-Tony

Dream2Race

16th August 2003, 01:47

RetroMiata

16th August 2003, 21:11

oyveychris

17th August 2003, 18:48

Neo Masamune

18th August 2003, 08:38

No meet tonight....we're all tooooo pooped. I dunno how I'm here at work, even.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

18th August 2003, 10:19

Neo Masamune

18th August 2003, 11:16

Lucky.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

18th August 2003, 11:20

Hazimwood

18th August 2003, 11:30

RoadsterGuy99

18th August 2003, 11:57

RoadsterGuy99

18th August 2003, 12:28

Tony left Andrea a VM yesterday... looks like Dan got some goodies :D

Tony, how'd you do in the car show??

PAW467

18th August 2003, 13:55

PAW467

18th August 2003, 14:25

Tony Orlando

18th August 2003, 21:11

I'm fine, thank you. Click this link- HI, I'M A LINK (http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/miatamods/). I made a yahoo group and posted the pics. It's in "photos" (duh)You'll need to join the group to view them, but don't worry, nobody'll email you, I'm the mod and we're the only people with the link.

Enjoy.

(P.S. I love the pictures of me playing Podracer: TOTAL CONCENTRATION BABEEEEEE!!!) :D

Tony Orlando

18th August 2003, 22:59

RoadsterGuy99

19th August 2003, 10:44

yeeaa! Tony!! BTW, how did you do in the car show??

oh yea guys, i'm SOL at work... the whole net is down :sad: so... no further posts from me today until tonight... see ya then!

AutoXRacer

19th August 2003, 13:31

Does anyone know where I can get the best tire/wheel balance in Orlando?
Every time I finish an autocross, my wheels are out of balance.
I can't be chewing up that much rubber...?

When I get my balance done its good at low speed and horrible at high speed or vice versa...

I am in the market for new tires. I am between the Azenis and the new MXs; any thoughts?

I was planning to buy dedicated race tires (Hoosiers), but the thought of installing a hitch on my car is discouraging...

I'm glad you guys made it back alright, seemed like you had a lot of fun.
I missed out big time... :(

PAW467

19th August 2003, 13:49

Gerald..

Its most likely flat spots..no balancing will fix that. Its one of the dissadvantages about autocrossing on street tires.

I think your at the same point I am about puting a hitch on the car. Moss makes a good one I think. Honestly, its going to be the only solution to the problem.

AutoXRacer

19th August 2003, 13:58

But it looks so ugly!!! :(
Do you know how much it is? Is it the same one Bob P. uses?

My car feels so rough at 60-70mph and then 80-100mph. The whole sterring wheel vibrates (like it was out of balance)... :ohno:

So, you really think those are flat spots...? :confused:
That would totally suck!!! (can I say suck on Miata.net?)

PAW467

19th August 2003, 14:01

Aaron

No dice on the Azena's his suppler is out of them doesn't look like they'll be getting any anytime soon. Not sure why.

Heres your tire info:
tire 1: on ware markers
tire 2: it's a little bit better on the ware markers.

PAW467

19th August 2003, 14:13

LOL yes you can say suck.. "I think"

Umm I think Matt can answer that one. I think Bob P uses a different type. A hidden style.

I'd have to say thats where the vibe would come from. Only thinking out side of the box on this one tho.

Neo Masamune

19th August 2003, 14:38

Patrick, okay, those tires will easily last me till I can get ahold of a second pair to get them replaced, since I can only find two brand new ones in the orlando area. And I'm not telling anybody where they're at. :p

Trust me, Azenis grip good in the wet till they're close to completely bald, it's the compound of the rubber that attributes to that.

If I replaced them when they hit the wear markers, I'd have 5000 miles on them at best. That's REALLY sad.

I'm waiting to hear on the ES100's from my friend still though. I'll find out this afternoon.

-Neo

Neo Masamune

19th August 2003, 14:50

Gerald, your tires are probably flat spotted pretty badly. Mine are, and flat spots over time on slightly unbalanced wheels (causing the 65 mph shimmy we all know and love) make for bigger and more noticeable flat spots.

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

19th August 2003, 18:51

RoadsterGuy99

19th August 2003, 19:00

ack! reached limit and i still 8 pictures left to load! :sad:

Tony, leave your yahoo page up! We'll use both for hosting

Tony Orlando

19th August 2003, 22:17

K. Hey Dan, looks like somebody took a nice shot of your car. check it out (http://public.fotki.com/PMS/panhandle_miata_03/r_speed_open_house/mvc-228s.html)

Sweet....

No respect at the show n' shine. They gave best of show to the guy with the Nitrous Express kit and all the Rspeed stuff, and second and third went to NA's. I dunno, I was figuring that the VF, all the chrome and the stripes would get me a little love from the judges, but alas, we have another Speedlife. Oh well.....People did take a lot of pictures of it, though. :)

Hazimwood

19th August 2003, 22:50

Dream2Race

20th August 2003, 00:31

Street tires are harder to flat spot than people think. I doubt your tires are flat spotted. I think you're just being compulsive. ;)

Flat-spotting tires results from excessive wheel lockup, which I haven't really seen Gerald do while autocrossing. And it would take some SERIOUS wheel lockup to flat spot Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s cuz they're not a very soft compound.

Palmblad has something called a Tire Tail. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure that's what it's called. It's not a hitch at all.

I have a hitch for Myata that is removable. Take it out when you're not using it by removing a pin.

Gerald, did you go back and finish reading your thread in the Performance Driving/Autocross forum? I revived it and a few more posts came in afterwards.

PAW467

20th August 2003, 10:27

I'm not sure Matt my Toyo's were pretty much toast due to autocrossing.

BTW, welcome to the Non-Barn Door Club :D So are you going to bring it out on Monday so we can see it??

Dream2Race

20th August 2003, 11:13

:D

Toast and flat-spotting are 2 different things. :D

[ 20. August 2003, 11:24: Message edited by: Dream2Race ]

10AE 2344

20th August 2003, 18:01

Tony Orlando

20th August 2003, 21:36

RoadsterGuy99

20th August 2003, 21:47

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
No respect at the show n' shine. They gave best of show to the guy with the Nitrous Express kit and all the Rspeed stuff, and second and third went to NA's. I dunno, I was figuring that the VF, all the chrome and the stripes would get me a little love from the judges, but alas, we have another Speedlife. Oh well.....People did take a lot of pictures of it, though. :) Yea, that NB FL with the NX kit... that's Old Oldz or NX MX5 now i think... it's a cool car, but my opinion not one to win... he did take a trophey last year... second place i think... but, you'll get'em next year ;) :D

As far as on waruyoi yahoo's page... did you keep to the 640 rule ;) :rolleyes: :ohno:

Tony Orlando

20th August 2003, 21:56

Ummm.... (click, click, delete....)

Yes.

:ohno:

Dream2Race

20th August 2003, 22:09

PAW467

20th August 2003, 23:15

Well, all I can say is that I learned on those toyos Matt. With less then 12K they were burned up and then some. And that was less then a year I had them. I think I did @ 5 Autocrosses on those.

Gerald has been also doing the practice session at SCCA. And learning on his tires as well. As from my experiance from just starting out. It was just an opinion.

AutoXRacer

21st August 2003, 09:59

Since the June Martin event (my first event ever), I've done 11 events total (including practice events).

:eek: ...damn, I just noticed how much money that cost... :eek:

Boy, this sport is expensive. ...But its fun... :D

RoadsterGuy99

21st August 2003, 09:59

Originally posted by Tony Orlando:
Ummm.... (click, click, delete....)

Yes.

:ohno: LOL

RoadsterGuy99

21st August 2003, 10:04

PAW467

21st August 2003, 11:34

Kompakt

21st August 2003, 13:36

Hi guys.. should be back in town this Monday for classes so i'll probably see u guys... which benigans will u meet at?

ps. my clutch went out on my way to orlando the other day and i put a good 250miles w/o clutch.. the worst part was being stuck on turnpike for 2hrs in bumper2bumper traffic :( it was the slave cylnder just bleed the clutch for now ill change it later.

RoadsterGuy99

21st August 2003, 14:59

Neo Masamune

21st August 2003, 15:24

Froggers in Oviedo. :)

Patrick, I'm ordering two Falken Azenis tires tomorrow after work from Discount, they should be in sometime in the middle of next week. I'll need to come get my two bad wheels and tires (and doublecheck the others just in case) Probably on Sunday?

-Neo

PAW467

21st August 2003, 15:50

eehh.. you expect me to work on Sunday :D I'll make it a point to be around..

Ye can count me out for Oviedo..Froggers..

10AE 2344

21st August 2003, 18:02

I'm down with Froggers, but it is even farther than Gators for those across town.

Warning: brain dump ahead!
While up at R-speed I bought a used lip spoiler that was already innocent blue mica (IBM). The paint on it is not in the best condition, but it is the right color. I figured I could just shoot it with a can of IBM spray from Tony's friend or towerpaint.com and all would be well. I installed the spoiler at my friend's up in atlanta because he has a garage and we had nothing better to do. Well, As most of you have pointed out at least once, my front bumper was poorly repainted the incorrect color before I bought the car. It was liveable before, but now it looks even worse, cause the lip spoiler and hood are the same and the bumper is wrong! :ohno: I'm usually all about the DIY, but I think painting the whole bumper is pushing my experience and facilities a bit. Especially since the pieces are plastic and the paint will probably need some kinda flexy additive. I've read about people who've sprayed their rocker panels or side skirts, etc, but the whole front bumper? From the digging I've done, about 300 bucks wouldn't be unreasonable for a professional job, but I can't really afford that and I just want the color to match. I'm left with many questions... Does the bumper have or need a clear coat? How long would this take a pro to do?(how long would I be without a bumper) Would my paint be faded enough to need color matched? How much cheaper would it be if I disassembled and sanded it? Is this something I could do? I guess calling shops for an estimate wouldn't hurt, but before I do, does anyone have experience painting stuff or know someone who paints stuff (for cheap :D )?

BTW, front clearance isn't as bad as I thought it would be with the new lip. OEM lip spoiler 5.125" clearance, Garage Vary lip spoiler 4.625": loss of .5" (and no, I can't measure to three decimal places. 1/8th = .125 :p ) I hadn't scraped the OEM lip since the OM meet at Bob's house where I about broke the thing off(april I think) so hopefully this won't be much worse.

Badassian

21st August 2003, 18:24

Originally posted by Hazimwood:
/Hey guys, jsut wanted to let you in on little something that came to my attention today. As some of you know, I work at Advance Autoparts and today a guy came in to get an Optima battery. I asked him what is was for and he said =it was for his 91 MR2 turbo. He invited me to check it out since I seemed interested. It had a real nice setup with a TEC 3. He said the car makes somewhere near 500hp and was running 812cc injectors, and it idled fine. I asked him where he got the work done with the TEC 3 and he said Grage Advance. I've heard of them and met some of the guys from the shop at my store but Its nice to know that there is someone who can deal with the TEC 3 around here. And it was all very clean! Now if I only had money for the Racing mazda kit complete with Tec 3 and injectors. Yeah, I've put up a couple posts about Garage Advance, especially when people were looking for a place to dyno. They have experience tuning many different aftermarket ecus.

Also there was a FMIII Miata at the Brevard Motorsports show that put down 254whp. It never really stood a chance against the Enjuku 240 in the dyno competition though. 496 whp on a Mustang dyno ain't bad ;)

10AE 2344

21st August 2003, 19:21

another must see movie, if you liked Desparado

Once Upon A Time in Mexico (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/onceuponatimeinmexico/)

RoadsterGuy99

21st August 2003, 21:05

Originally posted by 10AE 2344:
another must see movie, if you liked Desparado

Once Upon A Time in Mexico (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/onceuponatimeinmexico/) YES!! btw... is it really a sequel to Desparado?? :confused:

Tony Orlando

21st August 2003, 21:10

Yep, true sequel.

Dan, I'd be happy to hook you up with my painter. I think he'd want the bumper (or car) for at least 2 days, but that's just my guess.

Patrick, why no Monday night? Is it Frogger's? Because I assure you, the crap service and food we recieved at the Turkey Lake Frogger's is NOT what you get at Oviedo. Hot wings, hot chicks, cold beer, good service. You must join us.......It is your destiny.

:D

RoadsterGuy99

21st August 2003, 21:37

RoadsterGuy99

21st August 2003, 21:43

anyone watching MXC on SpikeTv right now?? hilarious stuff!! :D

MXC website (http://www.spiketv.com/shows/meec/)

[ 21. August 2003, 21:59: Message edited by: 976 ]

oyveychris

21st August 2003, 21:56

PAW467

22nd August 2003, 09:16

Tony, Its because I don't like Oviedo.. :p

[ 22. August 2003, 09:37: Message edited by: PAW467 ]

AutoXRacer

22nd August 2003, 11:29

:eek: Guess who is going to show up to the meeting Monday night!!!! :eek:

Has any of you installed a stainless steel braided clutch line on your car? How have the first hand experiences been? :confused:

Does anyone know where I can find ATE Super Blue Dot 4 brake fluid locally?

Thanks

[ 22. August 2003, 11:49: Message edited by: AutoXRacerMiata ]

oyveychris

22nd August 2003, 12:11

10AE 2344

22nd August 2003, 13:01

God dosen't want my car to be clean. :sad:

I just finished washing it and pull around to my apartment. I'm standing there with the bug and tar remover working on the persistant bugs when suddenly *drip*...*drip* *drip*... *sploosh!* I just ignored the rain and stood there in the downpour working on the bugs. Some roofing workers nearby were frantically gathering their equipment and looking at me like I was insane. :p

Tony, could you e-mail me your paint guy's info, or if you see him and are feeling ambitous, ask him about price, time, etc. The stuff I posted about before. Thanks.

Dream2Race

22nd August 2003, 14:06

RoadsterGuy99

22nd August 2003, 14:56

Originally posted by Dream2Race:
Where's the Frogger's in Oviedo? Is it right on Alafaya? I've got a new toy to show everyone. ;) :D uh-ohhh... ;) :D

edit: here's a map (http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypMap.py?Pyt=Typ&tuid=B:OR591776&ck=1398394569&tab=B2C&tcat=95746674&city=Oviedo&state=FL&country=us&msa=5960&cs=4&ed=dd1IXq1o2TxLkWGg3p1qwYAYx3ORiIRQmObE_9i1LQHz&stat=:pos:0:regular:regT:1:fbT:0) for froggers

[ 22. August 2003, 15:03: Message edited by: 976 ]

Neo Masamune

22nd August 2003, 14:59

Good question. Dan, your turn to post directions to get us there!

-Neo

RoadsterGuy99

22nd August 2003, 15:05

Originally posted by Neo Masamune:
Good question. Dan, your turn to post directions to get us there!

-Neo hahah, see my edited post!! :D

Neo Masamune

22nd August 2003, 15:13

Awesome.

-Neo

Dream2Race

22nd August 2003, 20:34

Yep, that's where I thought it is. I should be there (late of course) as long as I get the Pit Patter done this weekend. :D

Rode in an RX-8 this afternoon! Really neat car! Handles great, and sounds sweet. Some cool styling, but a few features I didn't like. I think it'd look much better without the back doors. Also can't put in an aftermarket head unit as all the dash controls are integrated into one piece. I'm sure someone will figure out a fix for that though. Anyway, it may not have the power of the RX-7, but to say it's underpowered is slightly inaccurate. I guess it depends on your opinion of what power should feel like. It's certainly torquey. I had the opportunity to drive it but I didn't have time. I will next time though...since it was my friend who bought it. :D :D :D

AutoXRacer

22nd August 2003, 20:45

:eek: Did you guys hear that the RX8 is underpower to what Mazda claimed... :eek:

Seems like Mazda did the same thing they did with the 2001 Miata. False horsepower claim. The RX8 has been dynoed @ 180rwhp; which means that its approximately 210hp at the flywheel instead of the 238-250hp that Mazda claimed...

So now the new owners of the RX8 will be recieving letters stating that Mazda will buy back the RX8 or issue a $500 debit card with free maintenance...

Hum, how can Mazda let that happen again!!! :confused:

Tony Orlando

22nd August 2003, 21:17

RoadsterGuy99

22nd August 2003, 21:23

RoadsterGuy99

23rd August 2003, 08:03

PilotKD

23rd August 2003, 10:41

There are two versions of the RX-8. A 207hp one and the 250hp. Are you saying the 250hp one actually has 210hp? If that is true, what does the 207hp one have? 160?

Kris (10AE #3031)

AutoXRacer

23rd August 2003, 11:21

All that I've been reading mentions the 250hp one. I haven't heard anything on the 207hp.

Why would anyone get the 207hp one anyway... :confused:

RoadsterGuy99

23rd August 2003, 13:06

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
All that I've been reading mentions the 250hp one. I haven't heard anything on the 207hp.

Why would anyone get the 207hp one anyway... :confused: why does the european and japanese market still offer a 1.6L Miata?? think about that ;)

[ 23. August 2003, 13:13: Message edited by: 976 ]

AutoXRacer

23rd August 2003, 13:20

Because they are concerned with gas milage/consumption and cost? :confused:

Plus, the rest of the world always has a better more extensive option list than we do in the USA... :p

RoadsterGuy99

23rd August 2003, 13:40

AutoXRacer

23rd August 2003, 13:47

yeah, but in the USA we are no concerned with gas milage/consumption... :rolleyes:

We all want HP!! The larger the number the better...
The USA is probably the only country in the world that does not care about gas consumption... Just look at our cars-gas guzzlers (well, the cars that are sold in the USA).

RoadsterGuy99

23rd August 2003, 14:13

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
yeah, but in the USA we are no concerned with gas milage/consumption... :rolleyes:

We all want HP!! The larger the number the better...
The USA is probably the only country in the world that does not care about gas consumption... Just look at our cars-gas guzzlers (well, the cars that are sold in the USA). no concern for gas milage?? well then, explain all the hybrids that are coming out on the market, hrm??

Kompakt

23rd August 2003, 16:46

i do find that in the US people are concerned about gas milage more than other countries.

aside from having to pay close to $5 for a gallon of gas in europe. I beleive that car taxes depend on the displacement of the engine and anything above or 2.0l is considered high.

Kompakt

23rd August 2003, 16:51

also forgot to mention.. that they start off with basic cars in europe. all the options that come standard on US market cars are to keep them in competition with the rest of the market.

Leather, Sunroof, Powerwindows, CDplayer...etc most ppl expect to have these on their new cars in US. But in europe.. you could buy a brand new bmw maybe with manual windows, clothseats, no sunroof, no tape.

its true though as far as customization, they have a lot more options than they do in the US.

Dream2Race

23rd August 2003, 18:18

PilotKD

23rd August 2003, 20:02

Originally posted by Kompakt:
i do find that in the US people are concerned about gas milage more than other countries.

aside from having to pay close to $5 for a gallon of gas in europe. I beleive that car taxes depend on the displacement of the engine and anything above or 2.0l is considered high. I'm not sure about that. Kinda contradicts the SUV/Truck rage. Most of them get 15-18mpg on the highway and hold 30 gallons worth of gas. My roommate's Z74 goes through 28 gallons a week vs my 12.

The automatic RX-8's come with 210hp. I thought it was 207. So, autos get 210 and manuals get the 250.

Kris (10AE #3031)

10AE 2344

23rd August 2003, 21:16

Mark, that MXC show is a trip! I haven't ever laughed that hard at a TV show. Japan is wierd! I swear the contestants are drunk!

Matt, the bug & tar remover is some old Amway stuff I found in a cabinet while at home. It's the only stuff I've ever used that actually works. My friend from Atlanta's cars are covered with sap and he had a collection of bottles of worthless bug and tar removers. :rolleyes: He'd used my stuff back in high school and asked if I could find him some. I need to figure out where/ from whom to get more.

Speaking of fuel economy, what's with gas prices? $1.60 for the cheap stuff?!? It even wasn't that bad back during the "war". I'm gonna start diluting it with water to stretch it out! Oh, wait... I bought gas from Racetrack... don't they already do that? :p

Maybe the gas prices will make people form new habits like consolidating trips, riding the bus, carpooling, and walking or riding bikes for short trips. On second thought, why bother! Oil grows on trees in America! Instead, lets bring back the 16 cylinder engine! You know, SUVs COULD be more efficient, but they need the torque of big displacement engines to get those 24" dubs a rollin'! :cool:

As far as options, I'll take the 300lb delete option. :D Too bad the Club Sport model wasn't a little more hardcore, a la M3 CSL or 360 Stradale.

Mazda is retarted for shafting us on claimed HP again! They need to regain the buyers trust by going the SRT-4 route and claiming actual wheel HP for all sporty cars from now on. ;)

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AutoXRacer

24th August 2003, 09:25

:eek: yeah, What the hell is going on with gas prices!!!! :eek:

By where I work, they are charging $2.09!!!!!
Thats outrageous!!!!!

Prices are once again increasing, I guess Bush doesn't care anymore, he has bigger worries now... :mad:

AutoXRacer

24th August 2003, 12:34

[/qb][/QUOTE]no concern for gas milage?? well then, explain all the hybrids that are coming out on the market, hrm?? [/QB][/QUOTE]

Well, that is a government program given/offered to automakers for large sums of money (incentives/bonuses) for designing and selling energy efficient cars...

Now, how many people do you think will purchase those? Have you test driven one?
They are cows!!!
Now, there is a small population of people that don't care what they drive. All they want is a cheap form of transport/running cost.
But whos counting them... :p

Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that with all the turbo, recent increase in supercharged engines, the ever increasing HP in US marketed engines, and the size of cars; its seems like the US does not worry about marketing a fuel efficient car...

We do have the cheapest gas in the world... :rolleyes:

Take your typical car buyer. Would they compremise comfort for fuel efficiency? Not many people want to drive econo boxes unless they are financially challenged...

SUVs are the perfect example... The bigger the better!!! Navigator, Sequoia, Suburban, Caddy SUV, etc.
And most of these engines are pushing high 200hp-300hp...

And these vehicles are selling like hot cakes!!
GM just swapped engines in the Pontiac Bonneville from the 3800 V6 to a V8. Impala NA V6 to a Supercharged V6. The new GTO, LT1 corvette engine with 350hp, need I go on...

Just a though/opinion. Don't hate me...
;) :D

10AE 2344

24th August 2003, 13:38

Buying cars is an emotional decision for 99% of people. Cars unfortunately are seen as status symbols, and people buy the best (biggest, most powerful) they can afford. Gas mileage isn't as 'fun' of a number as HP. ALso, people don't pay much attention to it because they don't HAVE to. If gas was 5 bucks a gallon, logic would start to have a greater impact on car choices. Car makers have to improve every new model, and engine size/power is always bumped a bit. It's amazing that cars like the Accord are as fast as some old school muscle cars. Try to convince people that they don't need all that power... good luck! Fortunately, efficency has also improved, and their gas mileage is much better than muscle cars.

Hybrid cars are still too expensive to recoup the cost in saved gasoline. They will remain more or less a novelty until the technology improves and prices fall. However, the new Prius is supposed to be much better. Higher MPG, a few seconds quicker to 60, and much better looking.

BTW, why bother with all the fuss over hybrids when diesels are already so efficient? Maybe not so much as hybrids, but more so than gasoline engines, and they have much more power than the hybrids. Ever driven a VW TDI? :D How come there aren't any hybrid diesels? Seems an obvious combination. I guess shutting off a diesel engine at every stop light like the hybrids do now wouldn't really be ideal.

Tony Orlando

24th August 2003, 13:54

Sorry, I don't have anything to add to this topic. :p

However, on a totally unrelated topic, my Dad will be accompanying me to this week's Monday night meet in his '72 RX2. :)

Patrick, you have to come out now.

AutoXRacer

24th August 2003, 13:58

Tony Orlando

24th August 2003, 14:17

RoadsterGuy99

24th August 2003, 16:11

HAHAH, what a heated topic this has become! ;) :ohno:

Hrm... I'd like to see a big SUV with just a puny V6 or even a 4 banger... reason why they have big engines to begin with to haul it's heavy a$$ self first! As far as seeing hybrids on the road, yes I do see plenty... Yes, the world is in an everquest for more power... but more power = more $$.

Anyhoo... I'd love to see that RX2 :D See ya'll tomorrow night!

oyveychris

24th August 2003, 17:49

Dream2Race

24th August 2003, 19:54

Originally posted by 10AE 2344:
Hybrid cars are still too expensive to recoup the cost in saved gasoline. Yes, but our government gives tax credits for owning one. :rolleyes:

There may be an RX-8 at the meet tomorrow night. ;)

Tony Orlando

24th August 2003, 21:00

Ooooohh.... It's like a "30 Year evolution of the Rotary" show, right here in O-town. :D

I'll bet my old man will want to race it.

RoadsterGuy99

24th August 2003, 21:08

AutoXRacer

24th August 2003, 22:16

AutoXRacer

25th August 2003, 09:13

Hey guys, I'm at Jury Duty right now... :mad:
This sucks!!! :mad:

The lady (duty personnel) just informed us we could be here til 6:00pm!!! :eek:
When I called, they told me jury duty did not take more than 4hrs...

Oh well, time to send someone to the chair!!! :D

RoadsterGuy99

25th August 2003, 09:37

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
Hey guys, I'm at Jury Duty right now... :mad:
This sucks!!! :mad:

The lady (duty personnel) just informed us we could be here til 6:00pm!!! :eek:
When I called, they told me jury duty did not take more than 4hrs...

Oh well, time to send someone to the chair!!! :D did you bring a laptop with ya to the court house??

RoadsterGuy99

25th August 2003, 09:40

AutoXRacer

25th August 2003, 09:46

Are you talking about the Solo book? I thought you got it back!!!! :eek: :confused:

I gave it to Pat in July to give to you (I was not able to meet on Mondays, so I asked Pat if he could forward it to you).

You did not get it? :confused:

RoadsterGuy99

25th August 2003, 09:48

Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
Are you talking about the Solo book? I thought you got it back!!!! :eek: :confused:

I gave it to Pat in July to give to you (I was not able to meet on Mondays, so I asked Pat if he could forward it to you).

You did not get it? :confused: umm... nooo... unless he's reading it... but he never mentioned it... PAWWWWW!!! Where yer at??

AutoXRacer

25th August 2003, 09:53

I should be at the meeting tonight...
Hopefully we get someone in the chair (guzzzzzzz) early. :D

Don't worry, if PAW lost it or pawned it, I'll buy you a new one.

Sorry... :sad:

I just thought to give you back the book asap after I finished reading it. PAW told me he was going to see you the next day (we met up at the Tavares Martin event in July).

Sorry 976, I'll get you a replacement... :sad:

PAW467

25th August 2003, 11:23

No, I have it. I keep forgetting to put it back in the car. Not, a bad read. finished the book in about 4 days. (Kind'of a bore)

I will not be showing tonight. I shall see everyone next week.

AutoXRacer

25th August 2003, 13:56

You suck PAW!!! :p

Whats your excuse for not showing up...? :confused:

RoadsterGuy99

25th August 2003, 15:34

Question:
Originally posted by AutoXRacerMiata:
You suck PAW!!! :p

Whats your excuse for not showing up...? :confused: Answer:
Originally posted by PAW467:
Tony, Its because I don't like Oviedo.. :p

10AE 2344

25th August 2003, 15:51

Neo Masamune

25th August 2003, 16:11

The distance is too far for Patrick considering he has to go to Lake Mary after 8:30 to pick up his friend Chris, then go home, then drive all the way out to Oviedo. I can understand why he wouldn't want to go in this situation.

Storms are expected to be extremely strong this afternoon, so everybody be careful on your trek out there, Alafaya is under heavy construction (STILL) and has many hidden potholes that will be underwater. I was driving down it the other day, and bottomed out more than once.

-Neo

Hazimwood

25th August 2003, 18:24